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	* We don't just have a shortage of priests. We have a shortage of faith, hope, and love among all of the People of God. The shortage of priests is caused by a widespread loss of faith and increase in sin in our day.		* We don't just have a shortage of priests. We have a shortage of faith, hope, and love among all of the People of God. The shortage of priests is caused by a widespread loss of faith and increase in sin in our day.
	* Sin is easy. Sanctity is hard. Our culture glorifies the seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, anger, gluttony, and sloth. It mocks humility, generosity, chastity, meekness (gentleness, self-control), temperance, and zeal.		* Sin is easy. Sanctity is hard. Our culture glorifies the seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, anger, gluttony, and sloth. It mocks humility, generosity, chastity, meekness (gentleness, self-control), temperance, and zeal.
	* I doubt that God will be moved to send workers into the harvest if our prayer is, "Get someone else to sacrifice themselves so that the Body may be saved." The health of the priesthood depends upon the health of the whole Body--and the Body of Christ in the United States is very, very sick and sinful. We have been poisoned by the gospel of the world--hedonism in all its forms. "Suit yourself. Take care of number one. If it feels good, it can't be evil. If it feels good, do it; if that feels good, do it again."		* I doubt that God will be moved to send workers into the harvest if our prayer is, "Get someone else to sacrifice themselves so that the Body may be saved." The health of the priesthood depends upon the health of the whole Body — and the Body of Christ in the United States is very, very sick and sinful. We have been poisoned by the gospel of the world — hedonism in all its forms. "Suit yourself. Take care of number one. If it feels good, it can't be evil. If it feels good, do it; if that feels good, do it again."
	* God has not abandoned us. We have abandoned God.		* God has not abandoned us. We have abandoned God.

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	:: "Like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ... You are 'a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people of his own, so that you may announce the praises' of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light" [http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/1peter/1peter2.htm#v9 (1 Pet 2:5,9).]		:: "Like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ... You are 'a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people of his own, so that you may announce the praises' of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light" [http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/1peter/1peter2.htm#v9 (1 Pet 2:5,9).]

	All believers (priests included!) have but one essential gift to give to God in return for God's love: their own heart. No one else can make this sacrifice for us. Each of us in the solitude of prayer must make a decision to surrender to God and let God be our sole God (the First Commandment--and the first principle of Islam).		All believers (priests included!) have but one essential gift to give to God in return for God's love: their own heart. No one else can make this sacrifice for us. Each of us in the solitude of prayer must make a decision to surrender to God and let God be our sole God (the First Commandment — and the first principle of Islam).

	::"The Church . . . earnestly desires that Christ's faithful, when present at this mystery of faith, should not be there as strangers. . . . They should give thanks to God. '''Offering the immaculate victim, not only through the hands of the priest but also together with him, they should learn to offer themselves'''" [http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html (SC § 48).]		::"The Church . . . earnestly desires that Christ's faithful, when present at this mystery of faith, should not be there as strangers. . . . They should give thanks to God. '''Offering the immaculate victim, not only through the hands of the priest but also together with him, they should learn to offer themselves'''" [http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html (SC § 48).]
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	In every Mass (Eucharist), those who take Communion should offer themselves to the Father in union with Jesus. This is the universal priesthood of the faithful. As with Jesus' act of love on the Cross, the person who makes a decision to give their whole self to God acts priest, victim, and altar of sacrifice.		In every Mass (Eucharist), those who take Communion should offer themselves to the Father in union with Jesus. This is the universal priesthood of the faithful. As with Jesus' act of love on the Cross, the person who makes a decision to give their whole self to God acts priest, victim, and altar of sacrifice.

	'''The priesthood of the faithful is not optional.''' Those who refuse to give themselves completely to God cut themselves off from Communion with Jesus--they ex-communicate themselves.		'''The priesthood of the faithful is not optional.''' Those who refuse to give themselves completely to God cut themselves off from Communion with Jesus — they ex-communicate themselves.

	The time of Communion in the Mass is our "altar call."		The time of Communion in the Mass is our "altar call."

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	=== Priesthood of the Faithful ===		=== Priesthood of the Faithful ===

			''The priesthood of all members of the Body of Christ is '''fundamental'''.'' The Holy Orders come from it and represent the fundamental priesthood of the Body. The common priesthood is first. The ministerial priesthood is second.

	:: "Like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ... You are 'a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people of his own, so that you may announce the praises' of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light" [http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/1peter/1peter2.htm#v9 (1 Pet 2:5,9).]		:: "Like living stones, let yourselves be built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ... You are 'a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people of his own, so that you may announce the praises' of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light" [http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/1peter/1peter2.htm#v9 (1 Pet 2:5,9).]

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	This is the sacrifice that Jesus made on the Cross: He gave Himself to the Father on our behalf. Jesus' self-offering is an offering of infinite worth. It fulfills all of the OT laws of sacrifice.		This is the sacrifice that Jesus made on the Cross: He gave Himself to the Father on our behalf. Jesus' self-offering is an offering of infinite worth. It fulfills all of the OT laws of sacrifice.

	On the Cross, Jesus is Priest, Victim, and Altar of Sacrifice. He is the New Temple of God; Christians who survived the destruction of the Jewish Temple (70 AD) interpreted that event as a sign that the Old Testament (Covenant) had come to ~~and~~ end.		On the Cross, Jesus is Priest, Victim, and Altar of Sacrifice. He is the New Temple of God; Christians who survived the destruction of the Jewish Temple (70 AD) interpreted that event as a sign that the Old Testament (Covenant) had come to an end.

	In every Mass (Eucharist), those who take Communion should offer themselves to the Father in union with Jesus. This is the universal priesthood of the faithful. As with Jesus' act of love on the Cross, the person who makes a decision to give their whole self to God acts priest, victim, and altar of sacrifice.		In every Mass (Eucharist), those who take Communion should offer themselves to the Father in union with Jesus. This is the universal priesthood of the faithful. As with Jesus' act of love on the Cross, the person who makes a decision to give their whole self to God acts priest, victim, and altar of sacrifice.

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 * I doubt that God will be moved to send workers into the harvest if our prayer is, "Get someone else to sacrifice themselves so that the Body may be saved."  The health of the priesthood depends upon the health of the whole Body--and the Body of Christ in the United States is very, very sick and sinful.  We have been poisoned by the gospel of the world--hedonism in all its forms.  "Suit yourself.  Take care of number one.  If it feels good, it can't be evil.  If it feels good, do it; if that feels good, do it again."
 * God has not abandoned us.  We have abandoned God.
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	Priesthood is not a piece of property that benefits the property holder at the expense of others. The powers that are given to priests to administer the sacraments and to rule as Vicars of Christ do not enrich them personally at the expense of the unordained. God does not love priests more than the laity nor are priests exempt from any of the standards applied to all of the disciples of Jesus.		Priesthood is not a piece of property that benefits the property holder at the expense of others. The powers that are given to priests to administer the sacraments and to rule as Vicars of Christ do not enrich them personally at the expense of the unordained. God does not love priests more than the laity nor are priests exempt from any of the standards applied to all of the disciples of Jesus.

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	* The masculinity of the priesthood reflects at least two dimensions of masculinity: the masculinity of God, the Father, and the masculinity of Jesus, true God and true man.		* The masculinity of the priesthood reflects at least two dimensions of masculinity: the masculinity of God, the Father, and the masculinity of Jesus, true God and true man.
	* The Church judges that it ''cannot'' [http://www3.canisius.edu/~moleski/handouts/ordination%20of%20women%20.pdf ordain women] because Jesus did not ordain women.		* The Church judges that it ''cannot'' [http://www3.canisius.edu/~moleski/handouts/ordination%20of%20women%20.pdf ordain women] because Jesus did not ordain women.

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	The argument that the ministerial priesthood is an ''injustice to women,'' because the ordained hold powers that the unordained do not, is not an argument in favor of the ordination of women but an argument for the abolition of the priesthood. ~~To allow women into the circle~~ of the ~~(allegedly) unjustly favored~~ elite ~~would simply expand~~ the ~~number~~ of ~~oppressors, still leaving~~ the ~~rest~~ of ~~the laity as second-class citizens~~. The powers that are given to priests to administer the sacraments and to rule as Vicars of Christ do not enrich them personally at the expense of the unordained. God does not love priests more than the laity nor are priests exempt from any of the standards applied to all of the disciples of Jesus.		When I entered the Jesuits in 1973, I was in favor of women's ordination. I paid dues to some national organization (perhaps N.O.W.?), and attended a conference that favored women's ordination circa 1975-1976. On Friday, I agreed with the speakers; by Sunday morning, I was opposed to them.

			All of their arguments were based on treating the priesthood as something that is the property of the ordained. I saw that if this was true, and if women were included in the propertied class, the basic injustice of having first- and second-class (or privileged and underprivileged) Catholics would remain.

			The argument that the ministerial priesthood is an ''injustice to women,'' because the ordained hold powers and property that the unordained do not, is not an argument in favor of the ordination of women but an argument for the abolition of the priesthood.
			If it is unfair for some to possess a kind of property that others do not, it does not matter whether the elite are an all-male bastion or whether the club is open to both sexes.

			Priesthood is not a piece of property that benefits the property holder at the expense of others. The powers that are given to priests to administer the sacraments and to rule as Vicars of Christ do not enrich them personally at the expense of the unordained. God does not love priests more than the laity nor are priests exempt from any of the standards applied to all of the disciples of Jesus.

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	:; [http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c3a3.htm#2031 CCC #2031]		:; [http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c3a3.htm#2031 CCC #2031]

	:: '''The moral life is spiritual worship.''' We "present [our] bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God," [http://usccb.org/bible/rom/12:1 (Rom 12:1)] within the Body of Christ that we form and in communion with the offering of his Eucharist. In the liturgy and the celebration of the sacraments, prayer and teaching are conjoined with the grace of Christ to enlighten and nourish Christian activity. As does the whole of the Christian life, the moral life finds its source and summit in the Eucharistic sacrifice.		:: '''The moral life is spiritual worship.''' We "present [our] bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God" [http://usccb.org/bible/rom/12:1 (Rom 12:1),] within the Body of Christ that we form and in communion with the offering of his Eucharist. In the liturgy and the celebration of the sacraments, prayer and teaching are conjoined with the grace of Christ to enlighten and nourish Christian activity. As does the whole of the Christian life, the moral life finds its source and summit in the Eucharistic sacrifice.

	:; [http://usccb.org/bible/rom/12:1 Romans 12:1]		:; [http://usccb.org/bible/rom/12:1 Romans 12:1]

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	: On entering the People of God through faith and Baptism, one receives a share in this people's unique, priestly vocation: "Christ the Lord, high priest taken from among men, has made this new people 'a kingdom of priests to God, his Father.' The baptized, by regeneration and the anointing of the Holy Spirit, are consecrated to be a spiritual house and a holy priesthood."<ref>LG 10; cf. Heb 5:1-5; Rev 1:6.</ref>		: On entering the People of God through faith and Baptism, one receives a share in this people's unique, priestly vocation: "Christ the Lord, high priest taken from among men, has made this new people 'a kingdom of priests to God, his Father.' The baptized, by regeneration and the anointing of the Holy Spirit, are consecrated to be a spiritual house and a holy priesthood."<ref>LG 10; cf. Heb 5:1-5; Rev 1:6.</ref>

	== We offer ourselves as a living sacrifice of praise ==		==== We offer ourselves as a living sacrifice of praise ====

	:; [http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c3a3.htm#2031 CCC #2031]		:; [http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s1c3a3.htm#2031 CCC #2031]

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	* We don't just have a shortage of priests. We have a shortage of faith, hope, and love among all of the People of God. The shortage of priests is caused by a widespread loss of faith and increase in sin in our day.		* We don't just have a shortage of priests. We have a shortage of faith, hope, and love among all of the People of God. The shortage of priests is caused by a widespread loss of faith and increase in sin in our day.
	* Sin is easy. Sanctity is hard. Our culture glorifies the seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, anger, gluttony, and sloth. It mocks humility, generosity, chastity, meekness (gentleness, self-control), temperance, and zeal.		* Sin is easy. Sanctity is hard. Our culture glorifies the seven deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, anger, gluttony, and sloth. It mocks humility, generosity, chastity, meekness (gentleness, self-control), temperance, and zeal.
	* I doubt that God will be moved to send workers into the harvest if our prayer is, "Get someone else to sacrifice themselves so that the Body may be saved." The health of the priesthood depends upon the health of the whole Body--and the Body of Christ in the United States is very, very sick and sinful. We have been poisoned by the gospel of the world--hedonism in all its forms. "Suit yourself. Take care of number one. If it feels good, do it; if that feels good, do it again~~. If it feels good, it can't be evil~~."		* I doubt that God will be moved to send workers into the harvest if our prayer is, "Get someone else to sacrifice themselves so that the Body may be saved." The health of the priesthood depends upon the health of the whole Body--and the Body of Christ in the United States is very, very sick and sinful. We have been poisoned by the gospel of the world--hedonism in all its forms. "Suit yourself. Take care of number one. If it feels good, it can't be evil. If it feels good, do it; if that feels good, do it again."
	* God has not abandoned us. We have abandoned God.		* God has not abandoned us. We have abandoned God.